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and people like wayne lapierre and others just found these flames. they make a lot of money doing it. it supports them politically. >> why does it work? >> i think they are preying on fears and worries and anxieties. >> is he crazy like a sfox? >> i think he's crazy like millions of the other people. i don't know if he believes this stuff. >> i think he behaves like the people who are scared. that's what i think works. by the way, the class thing is so important here. if you can convince the average guy, usually a guy in pennsylvania who is a deer hunter who once a year goes out and shoots deer. i don't do it, but fine, you do it. they go out and do it. and you say it's the elite media types t. . it's the people in hollywood that make all the money. they get their kicks some other way. you've got this one little hob bee. i think it's brilliantly evil. >> it is brilliantly evil, although it's not as brilliant anymore because i don't think it's working. david is right, it does work in riling up some pockets. but i think that's what he counted on with t
and people like wayne lapierre and others just found these flames. they make a lot of money doing it. it supports them politically. >> why does it work? >> i think they are preying on fears and worries and anxieties. >> is he crazy like a sfox? >> i think he's crazy like millions of the other people. i don't know if he believes this stuff. >> i think he behaves like the people who are scared. that's what i think works. by the way, the class thing is so important...
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this is wayne lapierre's america. and pretty much it does make sense because wayne lapierre and the nra, they're not lobbying for the rights for responsible gun owners the way they claim they are. wayne lapierre and the nra, they are bought and they are paid for, my friends. they are pushing a product. they are selling guns. here's the real america. 92% of americans support universal background checks. including 91% of americans in a household with a gun. you see, most supporters of the second amendment are supporters of common sense reform, but wayne lapierre, he won't tell you that. background checks are bad for business. here's the real america. 52% of americans in a household with a firearm support a ban on assault weapons. and that number's growing. this is not wayne lapierre's america. but 62% of americans in a household with a gun still think the national rifle association better reflects their views on firearms. my fellow americans, my fellow gun owners, i think we kind of need to wake up on this deal, you kno
this is wayne lapierre's america. and pretty much it does make sense because wayne lapierre and the nra, they're not lobbying for the rights for responsible gun owners the way they claim they are. wayne lapierre and the nra, they are bought and they are paid for, my friends. they are pushing a product. they are selling guns. here's the real america. 92% of americans support universal background checks. including 91% of americans in a household with a gun. you see, most supporters of the second...
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citizen lapierre who is -- is he this screamer of fire in the theater? wayne lapierre. watch him go to work. he just sent out a mass manifesto linking a lifeline from every spooked out crowd in the country from one to the other asking them all to arm themselves while there's still time, arm themselves. afraid of looting after a storm? get a gun. upset by illegal immigration? get a gun. don't like crime or drugs, get yourself a damn gun, man. that's the wayne lapierre message today. worried about the debt crisis? worried about the chaos coming afterwards -- you know the drill -- get a gun. arm yourself, america. it's not just a right, it's a duty. it's not just about uncle sam who is coming to get you in one of those black helicopters, it's that mob at the gate headed over the rio grande as we speak and right for your house up in idaho, right as we speak. lock and load. do it now. there's not much time. they're coming for you. you think this is crazy? well, this is wayne lapierre talking, the head of the nra, and what does that tell you? it tells you about a new division
citizen lapierre who is -- is he this screamer of fire in the theater? wayne lapierre. watch him go to work. he just sent out a mass manifesto linking a lifeline from every spooked out crowd in the country from one to the other asking them all to arm themselves while there's still time, arm themselves. afraid of looting after a storm? get a gun. upset by illegal immigration? get a gun. don't like crime or drugs, get yourself a damn gun, man. that's the wayne lapierre message today. worried...
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nra chief wayne lapierre spread ridiculous lies on fox news sunday. >> what they'll do is they'll turn this universal check on the law abiding into a universal registry of law-abiding people. and law-abiding people don't want that. >> well, law-abiding people want a universal background check system. more than nine in ten gun households want one. more than eight in ten nra member says the same thing. the president is quick to point out the popularity of the law. >> we know for example from polling that universal background checks are universally supported just about. by gun others. the overwhelming majority of gunowners think that's a good idea. so if we have lobbyists in washington claiming to speak for gun owners saying something different we need to go to the source and reach out to people directly. we can't allow those filters to get in the way of common sense. >> the gun lobby is worried. the president is making headway on this issue, which is why his opponents insist on distracting the country with things like this. the white house released a photo of president obama skeet shooti
nra chief wayne lapierre spread ridiculous lies on fox news sunday. >> what they'll do is they'll turn this universal check on the law abiding into a universal registry of law-abiding people. and law-abiding people don't want that. >> well, law-abiding people want a universal background check system. more than nine in ten gun households want one. more than eight in ten nra member says the same thing. the president is quick to point out the popularity of the law. >> we know for...
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so, e.j., wayne lapierre wrote a crazy op-ped piece yesterday somewhat in response to the president, then there he is today. and it's clearly a -- he keeps repeating this line, buy more guns, buy more guns. it's almost more overtly than ever a gun industry shill of let's just run up the sales. >> well, you know, i thought long and hard about this, and i've decided that actually you are writing most of wayne lapierre's material, because it doesn't make sense in any other way. it creates awesome segments for your show. the people, the only people this can appeal to are "a" the gun manufacturers as you say because he keeps saying, buy more guns. "b" the most extreme right end of the republican party base. i miean you look at this piece e wrote in the "daily caller." he says when the next terrorist attack comes, not with, just when, a paragraph that begins hurricanes, tornadoes, riots, terrorists, gangs, alone, criminals. there's a craziness about the rhetoric. so the only other thing i can think of reading this other than the fact you might have written it all is it's about the competit
so, e.j., wayne lapierre wrote a crazy op-ped piece yesterday somewhat in response to the president, then there he is today. and it's clearly a -- he keeps repeating this line, buy more guns, buy more guns. it's almost more overtly than ever a gun industry shill of let's just run up the sales. >> well, you know, i thought long and hard about this, and i've decided that actually you are writing most of wayne lapierre's material, because it doesn't make sense in any other way. it creates...
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thank you. >> coming up, wayne lapierre has an enemy's list, and you're probably on it, especially if you're in a union, since the aflcio is on it, and i'm on it. because the unions i'm in are members. and it is more likely if you're in any jewish organization. the madness and the anti-semitism is in tonight's rewrite. and more on the worldwide demonstrations against the abuse of women. actor activist and board member, rosario dawson joins us, with the last word. [ male announcer ] marie callender's finally found a way to get her oven baked taste straight from the microwave. like her oven roasted chicken baked in a rich, creamy alfredo sauce. she calls them her new comfort bakes. marie callender's. it's time to savor. a hairline fracture to the mandible and contusions to the metacarpus. what do you see? um, i see a duck. be more specific. i see the aflac duck. i see the aflac duck out of work and not making any money. i see him moving in with his parents and selling bootleg dvds out of the back of a van. dude, that's your life. remember, aflac will give him cash to help cover his rent
thank you. >> coming up, wayne lapierre has an enemy's list, and you're probably on it, especially if you're in a union, since the aflcio is on it, and i'm on it. because the unions i'm in are members. and it is more likely if you're in any jewish organization. the madness and the anti-semitism is in tonight's rewrite. and more on the worldwide demonstrations against the abuse of women. actor activist and board member, rosario dawson joins us, with the last word. [ male announcer ] marie...
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and also wayne lapierre. this is very important. because if you look at the profiles of all the people that committed these mass murders in newtown and aurora and across -- virginia tech, they are all hispanic drug gang leaders. and that's exactly what wayne lapierre said in an op-ed that americans need to buy guns because those latin americans are coming to america, and they're going to kill you people. this is who a lot of republicans in congress are thinking about falling off -- don't do it. don't hurt our party anymore. let wayne lapierre go wherever he wants to go. he's going to destroy the party. we're going to talk about the crazy op-ed has horrible for our party's image, horrible for the conservative movement's image, goes against everything ronald reagan stood for. we'll talk about that in a minute. first, breaking news. this is bizarre. the feel-good story of the olympic games involved in possibly murder. >> this was a total jaw-dropper this morning. oscar pistorius, for those people who don't know, is a south african runn
and also wayne lapierre. this is very important. because if you look at the profiles of all the people that committed these mass murders in newtown and aurora and across -- virginia tech, they are all hispanic drug gang leaders. and that's exactly what wayne lapierre said in an op-ed that americans need to buy guns because those latin americans are coming to america, and they're going to kill you people. this is who a lot of republicans in congress are thinking about falling off -- don't do it....
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wayne lapierre of the national rifle association. you ever wonder why everything he says seems increasingly inflammatory? it's not that he is dumb. it's not that he doesn't know what is going to upset you when you listen to a speech or a sound bite from him. the national rifle association exists to bug you. the national rifle association exists to make you think of him, to make you pay attention to him and to the nra instead of to the industry that pays the nra to be their heat shield. nobody knows the names of the ceos of the manufacturing companies in this country that make guns. nobody knows who runs the various gun companies and the accessories companies who makes those extended magazines anyway. nobody knows who those guys are. but everybody knows who wayne lapierre is. he wants you to hate him. that's his job. and i think that wayne lapierre and the nra are not even in this to win elections, which is why they stay in business despite a winning record of 1%. wayne lapierre exist to make you think of anything other than the maker
wayne lapierre of the national rifle association. you ever wonder why everything he says seems increasingly inflammatory? it's not that he is dumb. it's not that he doesn't know what is going to upset you when you listen to a speech or a sound bite from him. the national rifle association exists to bug you. the national rifle association exists to make you think of him, to make you pay attention to him and to the nra instead of to the industry that pays the nra to be their heat shield. nobody...
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this is why wayne lapierre is just wrong. senator durbin had a hearing on the second amendment this week and he made or one of his witnesses made the point when you talk about cracking down on purchasers, that's a document issue. this is not about the second amendment, not taking away anyone's guns. it's just if you sign a document saying i'm the purchaser of the gun, it's just like any document you sign for a loan. if you are offense or straw purchaser, if you lie or a criminal, you're going to face a penalty. he's wrong. it's not always about second amendment. there's nothing obama has said that would make you think you're going to lose a gun. >> in that room there are people nodding their head yes. what can be said at this point to persuade those folks this is not a secret agenda or what wayne lapierre referred to as deception or manipulation? >> to be honest, i'm not sure blah can be said. the premise of his argument is false. if there's been a decade-long war perpetrated against the second amendment, i must have been sle
this is why wayne lapierre is just wrong. senator durbin had a hearing on the second amendment this week and he made or one of his witnesses made the point when you talk about cracking down on purchasers, that's a document issue. this is not about the second amendment, not taking away anyone's guns. it's just if you sign a document saying i'm the purchaser of the gun, it's just like any document you sign for a loan. if you are offense or straw purchaser, if you lie or a criminal, you're going...
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>> wayne lapierre's own words, no loopholes. we have universal background checks. 91% of americans, republican party in washington, d.c., support this. 91% of americans, and the question is, mika, are they going to continue to be run off the end of the cliff by extremists that make up the hard right of their party that destroys their opportunities to win national elections? this is very simple. by the way, people say oh, joe, he's a -- no, i'm not. i still believe what i've always believed ideologically. i just have always believed in winning. >> yeah. >> maybe it's because i go to university of alabama. we like to win at the university of alabama. we believe in winning. we believe you don't get the ball and run it into the other guy's end zone. you try to win games. this republican party is chasing the most extreme element in their own party through the primary processes, and that's why harry reid right now is running the senate. >> but there are -- i mean, you saw the front page of the business section of "the new york times"
>> wayne lapierre's own words, no loopholes. we have universal background checks. 91% of americans, republican party in washington, d.c., support this. 91% of americans, and the question is, mika, are they going to continue to be run off the end of the cliff by extremists that make up the hard right of their party that destroys their opportunities to win national elections? this is very simple. by the way, people say oh, joe, he's a -- no, i'm not. i still believe what i've always...
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coming up, president obama tries to offer solutions, but the nra mouthpiece wayne lapierre keeps. throwing up roadblocks. and in minneapolis they have reduced crimes by 40%. r.t. rybak joins us. . . step seven point two one two. verify and lock. command is locked. five seconds. three, two, one. standing by for capture. the most innovative software on the planet... dragon is captured. is connecting today's leading companies to places beyond it. siemens. answers. ♪ they hatin' ♪ patrolling they tryin' to catch me ridin' dirty ♪ ♪ tryin' to catch me ridin' dirty ♪ ♪ tryin' to -- [ woman ] hi there. why do we always have to take your mom's car? [ male announcer ] the security of an iihs top safety pick, the 2013 volkswagen tiguan. that's the power of german engineering. right now lease a 2013 tiguan for $219 a month. ♪ >> brownie does a heck of a job mocking the superdome blackout on twitter, and the republicans use it to attack the president's unreasonable panel. and president obama's evolution on gay rights continues while republicans claim there is a war on scouts. we
coming up, president obama tries to offer solutions, but the nra mouthpiece wayne lapierre keeps. throwing up roadblocks. and in minneapolis they have reduced crimes by 40%. r.t. rybak joins us. . . step seven point two one two. verify and lock. command is locked. five seconds. three, two, one. standing by for capture. the most innovative software on the planet... dragon is captured. is connecting today's leading companies to places beyond it. siemens. answers. ♪ they hatin' ♪ patrolling...
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perhaps we know wayne lapierre is wrong about good guys and bad guys and guns. many of us find him hard to trust. his recent editorial in the daily caller spoke of supposedly rampant crime and murder in some place he called south brooklyn in the days after hurricane sandy. i live in brooklyn and there is no place referred to as south brooklyn but i think it's safe to say when he says that, much of the country envisions a place clogged with black people. if adam lanza with walked in a school in south brooklyn, we would probably not be having a sustained national conversation about guns. adam just smushed the pain of the gun epidemic in america's faw face but black people have been living with that pain for so long we're numb to it. black on black crime is a far more prevalent problem. we need greater out rage over that. i say this as the son of a long time gun owner who carries a gun to keep him safe as he moves through boston's black areas. when people say what has obama done for the black community, tell them whatever he accomplishes on gun control will disprop
perhaps we know wayne lapierre is wrong about good guys and bad guys and guns. many of us find him hard to trust. his recent editorial in the daily caller spoke of supposedly rampant crime and murder in some place he called south brooklyn in the days after hurricane sandy. i live in brooklyn and there is no place referred to as south brooklyn but i think it's safe to say when he says that, much of the country envisions a place clogged with black people. if adam lanza with walked in a school in...
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and tonight many of you are taking issue with the nra's wayne lapierre, who made up a story recently that south brooklyn was a hellish world, where looters ran wild in the aftermath of super storm sandy. on facebook, ingrid writes the man lives in his own world of violence and an impending apocalypse. linda bauer calls it fearmongering, the nra's constant ploy to sell guns. and kevin says lapierre's level of paranoid delusion underscores the need for tighter gun control. you can go to our facebook now and join in on the conversation. and don't forget to like "the ed show" when you're there. we appreciate that. >>> "hubris," the book and the documentary by the same name have ripped open new information on the lead-up to the war in iraq. david corn is here for more tonight, and we'll be right back. old mop. but don't worry, he'll find someone else. ♪ who's that lady? ♪ who's that lady? ♪ sexy lady ♪ who's that lady? [ female announcer ] used mops can grow bacteria. swiffer wetjet starts with a clean pad every time, and its antibacterial cleaner kills bacteria mops can spread ar
and tonight many of you are taking issue with the nra's wayne lapierre, who made up a story recently that south brooklyn was a hellish world, where looters ran wild in the aftermath of super storm sandy. on facebook, ingrid writes the man lives in his own world of violence and an impending apocalypse. linda bauer calls it fearmongering, the nra's constant ploy to sell guns. and kevin says lapierre's level of paranoid delusion underscores the need for tighter gun control. you can go to our...
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wayne lapierre lays out his plan and explains his case for why owning a gun is not about paranoia but survival. saying after hurricane sandy we saw the hellish world. and here with some of the reaction to that on "morning joe." >> it's about money. >> of course. >> he ain't crazy. >> he works for the gun manufacturers. >> and the gun manufacturers making lots of money. so it sounds crazy, but what he's doing is very simple. trying to scare americans and appealing to their racist side. >> yeah. >> the boogieman. >> joining me right now is msnbc political analyst and columnist for the hill karen finney and john brabender. >> good morning. >> do you agree? are there racial overtones here? >> well, i hope that isn't the intent. and i'm going to take it that it is not. but i really think the whole problem really started tuesday night with the president's speech where i believe he is leveraging terrible tragedies that have happened in this country, playing on emotions that makes good tv and standing ovations, but offered no leadership, no ideas and i think that's what a coward does. i think
wayne lapierre lays out his plan and explains his case for why owning a gun is not about paranoia but survival. saying after hurricane sandy we saw the hellish world. and here with some of the reaction to that on "morning joe." >> it's about money. >> of course. >> he ain't crazy. >> he works for the gun manufacturers. >> and the gun manufacturers making lots of money. so it sounds crazy, but what he's doing is very simple. trying to scare americans and...
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>> wayne lapierre is representing his organization. whether he's trying to fold into his organization. >> long identified with the gop. >> there's a difference between the nra and the rnc. he's doing what he's paid to do and representing it. the nice thing the democrats are doing are lopping the two groups together so i do understand that he's long supported a lot of republican candidates and a lot of democrat candidates, too. >> sure. >> he's got a fight to fight, he's wrong on some issues and right on some issues but certainly he has led his organization in articulating what their message is. >> what does lapierre do for the republican party, chris kofinis? >> damage them. the only thing he didn't mention in the op-ed was the zombie apocalypse. at some point in all seriousness these are difficult issues. i worked for a senator who was an nra "a" rating member so i understand the difficulty especially if you come from a rural state there are different perspectives. my preference is we clearly have to honor and respect the second amend
>> wayne lapierre is representing his organization. whether he's trying to fold into his organization. >> long identified with the gop. >> there's a difference between the nra and the rnc. he's doing what he's paid to do and representing it. the nice thing the democrats are doing are lopping the two groups together so i do understand that he's long supported a lot of republican candidates and a lot of democrat candidates, too. >> sure. >> he's got a fight to fight,...
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you know, wayne lapierre has spoken the last couple of days with the kind of hate and fear that clearly consumes him but also consigns the nra as an organization to the political fringe of this national debate. and certainly, he no longer speaks for many nra members, no longer speaks for the majority of gun owners, and that's a fundamental difference as well. so i think the sense of urgency has been maintained and sustained. the momentum is there. the judiciary committee's going to mark up a bill. in other words, frame the final language of the bill next month if not this month. and those votes will occur on the floor of the senate, i hope and believe, because the president's absolutely right. those families, the victims, the first responders, all americans deserve a vote. >> in terms of the way that the president phrased that in that repetitive cadence that he had that was so moving but also very specific saying these deserve a vote, deserve a vote, deserve a vote, and he went out of his way to say if you want to vote no that's okay but we ought to vote. i wonder what your assessment i
you know, wayne lapierre has spoken the last couple of days with the kind of hate and fear that clearly consumes him but also consigns the nra as an organization to the political fringe of this national debate. and certainly, he no longer speaks for many nra members, no longer speaks for the majority of gun owners, and that's a fundamental difference as well. so i think the sense of urgency has been maintained and sustained. the momentum is there. the judiciary committee's going to mark up a...
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and unfortunately, nothing i have said here about blood-drenched lobbyist wayne lapierre, i have not made the list. in fact no one from msnbc has made the list, but nbc is on the list, and maybe we can presume that everybody picking up a paycheck is on the list. and that would put me on that guy on the list. but i don't want to be on the list with that guy. so i will just have to wait patiently for the nra to put me on the enemy's list. and when and if they do, i hope they don't put me on the anti-gun journalist section of the list, and they probably won't. it just doesn't a single journalist, just cartoonists, that is where you find frank rich, e.j. dionne, and the columnist, jimmy breslin, from whom every newspaper columnist has learned a thing or two. i want to be on the fun section of the list, where albert brooks is, it is by far the longest section of the list and includes more friends of mine than any other part of the list. norman lear, spike lee, rob lowe, madonna. okay, i don't really know her, i just met her a long time ago. you get the idea, this is the fun group. this is
and unfortunately, nothing i have said here about blood-drenched lobbyist wayne lapierre, i have not made the list. in fact no one from msnbc has made the list, but nbc is on the list, and maybe we can presume that everybody picking up a paycheck is on the list. and that would put me on that guy on the list. but i don't want to be on the list with that guy. so i will just have to wait patiently for the nra to put me on the enemy's list. and when and if they do, i hope they don't put me on the...
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you have the ad with wayne lapierre then and now. what can we expect from the nra in response to that? i know you're not an insider behind the scenes, hogan, but how do you come back on tape saying one thing a few years ago and then stumbling through an answer now when it arguably is most needed? >> right. well, michael was right. that might be the only thing that could pass in this. there's democrats, obviously, pro-gun democrats like kay hagan in north carolina and mark pryor in arkansas probably a path of resistance for the president on some of these issues but the background check goes in to exactly what i was talking about. the background check albeit cumbersome for those that follow the law does have somewhat of a reputation of stopping criminals from getting guns. there will always be an element of citizenry criminals that go around the types of laws because they don't care about them in the first place. >> but the nra once supported it. >> you're right. >> mark, the hot water's not just on the nra. you have the mayor of minne
you have the ad with wayne lapierre then and now. what can we expect from the nra in response to that? i know you're not an insider behind the scenes, hogan, but how do you come back on tape saying one thing a few years ago and then stumbling through an answer now when it arguably is most needed? >> right. well, michael was right. that might be the only thing that could pass in this. there's democrats, obviously, pro-gun democrats like kay hagan in north carolina and mark pryor in...
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wayne lapierre does not. i remember in elementary school i had to take a current event class and i'm wondering if he's not paying attention to the news. we have newtown with 20 kids gone. and you have this new killer on the rampage in los angeles. at some point the gun laws can no longer control us. we have to control them. >> well, i wonder, too, david if they are tone deaf. universal background checks, which do seem, if anything, have the broadest support. take a listen. >> at first glance, there's nothing universal about it at all. but think about it, criminals won't be part of that universe. think about it. they will steal their guns. >> the polls are not on the nra side. 52% of americans support stricter gun control laws. overwhelming support for the universal background checks. 92%. 56% support a ban on assault weapons and high-capacity magazines. is the nra tone deaf? >> well, i think clearly there's a reaction to newtown that is not expected, given the horrific tragedy. the challenge for everybody, th
wayne lapierre does not. i remember in elementary school i had to take a current event class and i'm wondering if he's not paying attention to the news. we have newtown with 20 kids gone. and you have this new killer on the rampage in los angeles. at some point the gun laws can no longer control us. we have to control them. >> well, i wonder, too, david if they are tone deaf. universal background checks, which do seem, if anything, have the broadest support. take a listen. >> at...
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. >> the head of the national rifle association, wayne lapierre, isn't buying it. he says the president's gun control effort is a charade, a political effort disguised as a public safety issue. >> they only care about their decades long, decades old gun control agenda. ban every gun they can, tax every gun sold, and register every american gun owner. >> david gregory is moderator of nbc's "meet the press." david, you're going to have a big, actually, subsection of guns in america on "meet the press" today. the president going to chicago. he supposedly going to talk about some economic stuff, but he had to deal with this gun issue, especially in his hometown. >> but that's a question of how guns get trafficked, how they get into the city, as well as which guns. the reality is, what does the president say? you pointed this out on state of the union. the white house is not confident they get a ban on assault weapons or magazines, as you well know. background checks looks better. look, wayne lapierre is getting ready for 2014 and the midterm elections and making this m
. >> the head of the national rifle association, wayne lapierre, isn't buying it. he says the president's gun control effort is a charade, a political effort disguised as a public safety issue. >> they only care about their decades long, decades old gun control agenda. ban every gun they can, tax every gun sold, and register every american gun owner. >> david gregory is moderator of nbc's "meet the press." david, you're going to have a big, actually, subsection of...
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wayne lapierre's apocalyptic rantings about a world without guns are easy to lampoon, but he may have the support and the votes to block any kind of real gun legislation and themselves the facts. >>> also, illinois has moved a step closer to becoming the next state to approve gay marriage. conservatives are chronically worried right now that they're losing the culture war at least on that front. for once i think they're right. >>> and watergate. water hyphen gate. marco rubio's water bottle moment may be the image that haunts him for a long time. a look back at some of the other moments that fairly or not have come to define some politicians forever. and this is "hardball," the place for politics. [ kitt ] you know what's impressive? a talking car. but i'll tell you what impresses me. a talking train. this ge locomotive can tell you exactly where it is, what it's carrying, while using less fuel. delivering whatever the world needs, when it needs it. ♪ after all, what's the point of talking if you don't have something important to say? ♪ and this is "hardball," the place for politi
wayne lapierre's apocalyptic rantings about a world without guns are easy to lampoon, but he may have the support and the votes to block any kind of real gun legislation and themselves the facts. >>> also, illinois has moved a step closer to becoming the next state to approve gay marriage. conservatives are chronically worried right now that they're losing the culture war at least on that front. for once i think they're right. >>> and watergate. water hyphen gate. marco...
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wayne lapierre's apocalyptic rantings about a world without guns are easy to lampoon, but he may have the support and the votes to block any kind of real gun legislation and them's the facts. >>> also, illinois has moved a step closer to becoming the next state to approve gay marriage. conservatives are chronically worried right now that they're losing the culture war, at least on that front. for once i think they're right. >>> and watergate. water hyphen gate. marco rubio's water bottle moment may be the image that haunts him for a long time. a look back at some of the other moments that, fairly or not, have come to define some politicians forever. and this is "hardball," the place for politics. rea lly getting salon qu ality... or settling for wannabes? stop compromising! new vidal sassoon pro series. care and styling from the original salon genius, created to let you have it all at an affordable price. new vidal sassoon lets you say no to compromise and yes to very shiny... very silky... very sexy... very you. it's salon genius in a bottle! now in your store. new vidal sassoon pro
wayne lapierre's apocalyptic rantings about a world without guns are easy to lampoon, but he may have the support and the votes to block any kind of real gun legislation and them's the facts. >>> also, illinois has moved a step closer to becoming the next state to approve gay marriage. conservatives are chronically worried right now that they're losing the culture war, at least on that front. for once i think they're right. >>> and watergate. water hyphen gate. marco rubio's...
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we're too caught in wayne lapierre and rhetoric, to me nra is about buying and selling guns, not about second amendment and gun safety. we should focus on the issues. >> trafficking of guns. >> the leadership of the nra represent the gun lobby and those folks invested in selling more guns. i don't think they're interested protecting the second amendment rights. obviously lapierre as spokesperson has not given enough compass nat narrative to the kinds of things happening in mass shootings and chicago, and at the end of the day we need a conversation sans nra. i agree their power is a little overstated and this is a moment to move the conversation forward towards gun safety. >> and we said time and time again, salcalia, clarence thoma alito and conservatives in 2008 gave americans the second amendment right that we always believe we conservatives always believe was contained inside the second amendment. >> right. >> you don't need wayne lapierre out there now doing it for you. i wonder why they don't let david king go. because lapierre is such - such -- lapierre is such a nightmare. almo
we're too caught in wayne lapierre and rhetoric, to me nra is about buying and selling guns, not about second amendment and gun safety. we should focus on the issues. >> trafficking of guns. >> the leadership of the nra represent the gun lobby and those folks invested in selling more guns. i don't think they're interested protecting the second amendment rights. obviously lapierre as spokesperson has not given enough compass nat narrative to the kinds of things happening in mass...
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. >> so wayne lapierre is talking about the second amendment to the constitution there, and he is kind of correct. in this country we have a constitutional right to bear arms. the second amendment is 27 words long, quote, a well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed there is a lot of debate about what kind of arms the second amendment refers to and exactly what a well regulated militia is. but it is clear one of the things the founders wanted people to be able to do is to protect themselves from the government, government overreach. and this is a fact of american life that the most liberal of liberals or progressive of progressives simply can't deny. the constitution protects this right. here is the deal. for the past 48 hours, we've been watching a horrifying story unfold in los angeles. a frightening case study in what happens when someone decides to bastardize those rights and to use those second amendment rights to create chaos. >> this is a blue alert broadcast on a 187 suspect, forme
. >> so wayne lapierre is talking about the second amendment to the constitution there, and he is kind of correct. in this country we have a constitutional right to bear arms. the second amendment is 27 words long, quote, a well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed there is a lot of debate about what kind of arms the second amendment refers to and exactly what a well regulated militia is....
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obviously, wayne lapierre, who's a guy that i -- i support the second amendment. i think maybe they should ship him to france for a couple years. >> i think he hurt the movement. i think it's made it easier to sit there and say, wait a minute, whose side do you want to be on? they've been bad spokespeople on this front. it has made it easier for a tom coburn, who by the way is probably going to be the lynch pin here. schumer has been negotiating with him. they want to get coburn as a co-spon ssor on the background check. >> diane feinstein, chuck schumer. these people, they cannot push the republicans in any direction whatsoever. but wayne lapierre's mistakes, mika, week after week after week, his horrific performance on fox -- >> every single one was a cringer. >> the stupid thing they did with their gun app that little kids could play. on the month anniversary of the sandy hook slaughter. the commercial going after the president's kids. wayne lapierre did more to damage the nra than any democrat or liberal could ever do. >> he totally did. i can't imagine anybod
obviously, wayne lapierre, who's a guy that i -- i support the second amendment. i think maybe they should ship him to france for a couple years. >> i think he hurt the movement. i think it's made it easier to sit there and say, wait a minute, whose side do you want to be on? they've been bad spokespeople on this front. it has made it easier for a tom coburn, who by the way is probably going to be the lynch pin here. schumer has been negotiating with him. they want to get coburn as a...
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i mean, we had a freshman member of congress from around duluth, minnesota, who talked about wayne lapierre in his district with hundreds of thousandings of dollars coming in. so, yes, can they threaten numbers of congress. but, again, there's a gap between perception and reality here. i think -- yes, they can make life difficult for members of commerce. absolutely no question. >> it means we'll have to mack life make life difficult from the other side. chris and melissa, thanks for your time tonight. have a great weekend with all of this snow in the northeast. >>> but you can catch "up" with chris saturday morning and sunday mornings at 8:00 a.m. followed by melissa harris perry at 10:00 a.m. stay with us. officemax is celebrating our new collaboration with go daddy! with an online package including: domain name, website builder with five pages and basic email just $49.99! that's up to 76 percent below online providers and only at officemax stores! ...but he'd wait for her forever, for any reason, and would always be there with the biggest welcome home. for a love this strong, dawn only fe
i mean, we had a freshman member of congress from around duluth, minnesota, who talked about wayne lapierre in his district with hundreds of thousandings of dollars coming in. so, yes, can they threaten numbers of congress. but, again, there's a gap between perception and reality here. i think -- yes, they can make life difficult for members of commerce. absolutely no question. >> it means we'll have to mack life make life difficult from the other side. chris and melissa, thanks for your...
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i think the very special wayne lapierre has overreached and now it's contradicting what he said over the years. there's a great deal of pan iblg. the press conference that he did back in december, this is the first time they've been forced out to do something like that. now you see them just throwing everything at the wall to see what's going to stick and try to get their members fired up as possible. but they're having a hard time here. and it does not not seem like they've kind of figured out a good strategy yet. >> all right. i'm going to have to leave it there. clarence page and michelle cottle, thanks for your time tonight. >> thank you, reverend. >> ahead, the obama playbook and why it's driving conservatives crazy. carl rove versus the tea party. it's getting ugly. democrats may sell popcorn for this one. and we have a new delusional conspiracy theory. here comes the skeeters. you can't make this stuff up. well, actually, they can. big show ahead. come on back. i was in the ambulance and i was told to call my next of kin. at 33 years old, i was having a heart attack. now i'm o
i think the very special wayne lapierre has overreached and now it's contradicting what he said over the years. there's a great deal of pan iblg. the press conference that he did back in december, this is the first time they've been forced out to do something like that. now you see them just throwing everything at the wall to see what's going to stick and try to get their members fired up as possible. but they're having a hard time here. and it does not not seem like they've kind of figured out...
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given the comments of people like wayne lapierre who opposes background checks, is it your view, sir, that republicans like yourself are maybe beginning to rethink their allegiance to the gun lobby? >> well, what we're doing here today i think reflects common sense common ground and what's right for america -- >> but does it, sir, reflect republicans like yourself beginning to realize that some of the things that have been coming from the leadership of the nra are simply nonsensical and nonrepresentative of the vast majority of its own membership? >> look, i think the nra through the years has done a lot of good thing, and i'm proud of my membership in the nra. now, that said, i'm a businessman turned public servant, and i focus on that which i can get done, and we look for common ground, and that's why elijah and i are working so well together, representative carolyn maloney out of new york, pat meehan out of pennsylvania, one a demeanor, one a republican. we said what's right for america? we weren't focusing on trying to critique then ra. we aren't trying to focus on labeling. i thi
given the comments of people like wayne lapierre who opposes background checks, is it your view, sir, that republicans like yourself are maybe beginning to rethink their allegiance to the gun lobby? >> well, what we're doing here today i think reflects common sense common ground and what's right for america -- >> but does it, sir, reflect republicans like yourself beginning to realize that some of the things that have been coming from the leadership of the nra are simply nonsensical...
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lapierre. with me now, we have miguel almageur. i want to start with you, miguel. where are we? >> christopher dorner's vehicle was found in big bear, three hours outside of los angeles. that is where a lot of police activity is going on. certainly not the only police activity but officers are focused in that snowy mountain region three hours outside of los angeles. officers on the scene said they found footprints near christopher dorner's burned out vehicle but it lead know where they are not even sure if he is in that area. they believe he may be in a different vehicle. so officers and certainly the community -- many communities all across this region remain on edge as there has been no sign of dorner for some 24 hours, thomas. >> what are they telling people in big bear and southern california in general? >> well, it's interesting because the schools up in big bear have been closed for the day but the ski resorts where there are certainly many, many tourists, those remain opened. they have t
lapierre. with me now, we have miguel almageur. i want to start with you, miguel. where are we? >> christopher dorner's vehicle was found in big bear, three hours outside of los angeles. that is where a lot of police activity is going on. certainly not the only police activity but officers are focused in that snowy mountain region three hours outside of los angeles. officers on the scene said they found footprints near christopher dorner's burned out vehicle but it lead know where they...
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>> you know, the thing is, you've got wayne lapierre. >> yeah. >> who really was a lot closer to where americans are today. >> almost aware. >> than he is right now. because 92% of americans want universal background checks. i think that's coming. >> all right. meanwhile, president obama gained an ally in his efforts to pass new gun legislation in the wake of the newtown shootings. congressman joe heck, republican from nevada, backed universal background checks for firearms saying, quote, i think the idea of background checks across the board, i'm not opposed to them. and i disagree with people who say that this is going to be the first step to gun registration, which leads to gun con physician indication. c con physician >> they go through a background check. and guess what? they're not part of a national registry. >> right. >> nobody's coming to get their guns. the black helicopters around circling their house. nobody's taking their livestock. you can do this. you can make sure that felons can't walk into a gun store or go to a gun show and buy weapons. >> this is one of the points t
>> you know, the thing is, you've got wayne lapierre. >> yeah. >> who really was a lot closer to where americans are today. >> almost aware. >> than he is right now. because 92% of americans want universal background checks. i think that's coming. >> all right. meanwhile, president obama gained an ally in his efforts to pass new gun legislation in the wake of the newtown shootings. congressman joe heck, republican from nevada, backed universal background...
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that lindsey graham knows full well, wayne lapierre knows full well, gayle trotter knows full well and sheldon whitehouse asked a question which lapierre ducked. if you talk to hard core members of the nra, they will admit, as senator whitehouse said, they will admit you don't need an ar-15 to defend your home or go hunting or go target shooting or anything else. they want those guns because the police have those guns. and they believe that they will have to fight the police, and they want to be as heavily armed as the police when that happens. that is the underlying philosophy. >> so they think in terms of a barricade situation where it's them against the law. >> absolutely. >> congresswoman, that is new. it used to be they would say we're sportsmen, we're hunters, and then they would say whatever, self-protection if you live in a tough neighborhood or whatever. now they openly say we have to fight the government. that's pretty close to insurrection time, isn't it? we have to be ready to fight the government? >> this is what we've been hearing for a couple months, to be very honest wi
that lindsey graham knows full well, wayne lapierre knows full well, gayle trotter knows full well and sheldon whitehouse asked a question which lapierre ducked. if you talk to hard core members of the nra, they will admit, as senator whitehouse said, they will admit you don't need an ar-15 to defend your home or go hunting or go target shooting or anything else. they want those guns because the police have those guns. and they believe that they will have to fight the police, and they want to...
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lapierre. there is the image. so, katie, are you telling me that the future of conservatism is best represented by these two men but not by chris christie? >> well, i think that there's some truth to the fact that conservatives are attracted to people that stick to their guns and both palin and lapierre are people who, no pun intended i guess, but they both stick to their guns. and christie is someone who i always admired. however, i think that currently right now he has a bit of a branding problem, so, for example, let's say taylor swift were to become a rapper, she would probably lose a great deal of her base and she would have a hard time making friends in nashville. and i think that might be something similar to what's going on with christie, so a lot of conservatives felt very strongly and passionately for him but because of some of the decisions he's made recently with regard to spending and voting for some pork, they're seeing him a little bit differently now and he has more of a brandin
lapierre. there is the image. so, katie, are you telling me that the future of conservatism is best represented by these two men but not by chris christie? >> well, i think that there's some truth to the fact that conservatives are attracted to people that stick to their guns and both palin and lapierre are people who, no pun intended i guess, but they both stick to their guns. and christie is someone who i always admired. however, i think that currently right now he has a bit of a...
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and it goes to something we've been saying for a long time, that wayne lapierre not only is out of the mainstream, but he's out of touch with his own membership, with the nra, which is to say when he says that nobody wants universal background checks and then you look at the numbers, and it's something like 90% of americans want them, there is a desire for some measures. not extreme to go take their guns away, but there is a desire in this country, not just from democrats and liberals, but from americans as we saw there to do something about guns. >> the numbers have shifted dramatically, john heilemann. like they haven't shifted in recent history. and last night there was a special election. it was in a democratic seat to replace jesse jackson. a lot of people are scoffing about it. conservatives immediately because michael bloomberg went in. there was a candidate that was in a competitive race who was supported by the nra. bloomberg came in. and it changed everything overnight. >> he did. and he spent, i believe, $2 million on that race in a media market like chicago in a race at thi
and it goes to something we've been saying for a long time, that wayne lapierre not only is out of the mainstream, but he's out of touch with his own membership, with the nra, which is to say when he says that nobody wants universal background checks and then you look at the numbers, and it's something like 90% of americans want them, there is a desire for some measures. not extreme to go take their guns away, but there is a desire in this country, not just from democrats and liberals, but from...
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lapierre supporting a background check. here is a little bit of that ad. >> the nra once supported background checks. >> we think it's reasonable to provide mandatory instant criminal background checks for every sale at every gun show. no loopholes anywhere for anyone. >> all right. i'll admit i need quick answers here. can a southern republican vote for the background check bill and get re-elected? >> a licensed dealer at a gun show already does a background check. that's already going on. what we're talking about is antique and special collectors and private sales. i think that's very difficult to legislate properly without killing gun show. >> there is a rural split almost more than anything else. urban politics are more supportive of this idea. >> yes. but i think both the southern republican and the urban republican should all be voting for universal background checks. look, connecticut was a game changer. we need to understand that. the gun issue is here. it's not going away. every other day, we are hearing about a tr
lapierre supporting a background check. here is a little bit of that ad. >> the nra once supported background checks. >> we think it's reasonable to provide mandatory instant criminal background checks for every sale at every gun show. no loopholes anywhere for anyone. >> all right. i'll admit i need quick answers here. can a southern republican vote for the background check bill and get re-elected? >> a licensed dealer at a gun show already does a background check....
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for us. >> the point of that is that wayne lapierre, the nra head, now is against universal background checks. specifically he said this morning that they could lead to a universal registry of gun owners, something he says the nra opposes. >> peter alexander from 1600 pennsylvania for us. thank you, sir. >>> a reward for information in the sleiaying of a chicago teenager is at $40,000. there was a march saturday in memory of hadiya pendleton. the 15-year-old was shot and killed tuesday in a park with her friends. i want to bring in reverend al sharpton, host of msnbc's "politics nation." also president of the national action network as well. let's talk about hadiya first. recently got back from washington. she just performed at president obama's inauguration. for folks who don't know the story, who aren't familiar with this little girl, what can you tell us? >> 15 years old, honor student. as you said, performed at the president's inaugural festivities. went home, was on her way in a month or so to paris. and was killed. apparently standing under a petition that was, you know, there fo
for us. >> the point of that is that wayne lapierre, the nra head, now is against universal background checks. specifically he said this morning that they could lead to a universal registry of gun owners, something he says the nra opposes. >> peter alexander from 1600 pennsylvania for us. thank you, sir. >>> a reward for information in the sleiaying of a chicago teenager is at $40,000. there was a march saturday in memory of hadiya pendleton. the 15-year-old was shot and...
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. >> your language about nra scaring, listen to wayne lapierre this morning on fox news using some scary language to talk about guns. >> we are all obsessed with the taliban and we ought to be. what about these gangs that are ruining neighborhoods. we need a federal task force, if it takes 500 agents, 1,000 agents, go into chicago. >> now chicago is the taliban, right? this feels like fear. >> it's an interesting thing. actually, i wouldn't be surprised if a lot of low income residents agreed with that. look, we want more law enforcement, we want this to be treated as a national emergency. maybe not with the same language. put 1,000 agents on the street of chicago, a lot of people might be in favor of that. >> weren't they away from the international treaty like that. you have to realize when he's talking, this is a guy whose main directive is to make more gun sales. slate had an article 300 million guns, shotguns for sporting. there's a diminishing return of sales there. now the big market is in the sort of vicarious fake military guy. that is where the market is growing. people buying
. >> your language about nra scaring, listen to wayne lapierre this morning on fox news using some scary language to talk about guns. >> we are all obsessed with the taliban and we ought to be. what about these gangs that are ruining neighborhoods. we need a federal task force, if it takes 500 agents, 1,000 agents, go into chicago. >> now chicago is the taliban, right? this feels like fear. >> it's an interesting thing. actually, i wouldn't be surprised if a lot of low...
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. >> jim, your latest article is about wayne lapierre's state of the union response. here's part of that. >> we will not be duped by the hypocrisy in the white house or the congress who would deny our right to semiautomatic technology and the magazines we need to defend ourselves and our families. >> it would seem, jim, that no measure of public sentiment can way the nra message. obviously they don't care, right? >> well, i saw that speech as playing to his base, conspiratorial, to put it vaguely. but there are new forces coalescing against them. it's not just president obama who's smart enough and, like susan suggests, knows there will probably be limited gains legislatively in congress. maybe background checks but not much beyond that. but he also knows he's got folks like michael bloomberg getting very serious about going after the nra. in the back yard of that same speech yesterday which was in parts fairly pointed. you've got mayor bloomberg throwing a minimum of $1.5 million into a special congressional race to replace jesse jackson, jr., who pled yesterday. he'
. >> jim, your latest article is about wayne lapierre's state of the union response. here's part of that. >> we will not be duped by the hypocrisy in the white house or the congress who would deny our right to semiautomatic technology and the magazines we need to defend ourselves and our families. >> it would seem, jim, that no measure of public sentiment can way the nra message. obviously they don't care, right? >> well, i saw that speech as playing to his base,...
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. >> andy, nra ceo wayne lapierre spoke last night and his organization released a new ad. >> they don't make us free. we're free already. and as long as we have the second amendment, we always will be. we are america, and our politicians are only as powerful as we, the people, allow them to be. >> the message from the nra just doesn't change. how much influence does it still have? >> it doesn't have influence with television ads like that. i mean, that's an ad that they put out there, i mean, tries to appeal to patriotism or appeal to something, i'm not really quite sure. but the nra as a political entity, as an outside group, they do have power. it's not a power wielded with ads like that. it's power wielded in republican primaries, it's power wielded with the threat of mobilizing nra members, to, you know, knock on doors and try to, you know, get someone thrown out of office whether in the primary or the general election. that is where the far naer's might is really felt. now we're seeing folks on the other side sort of pop up to counter that. mayor mike bloomberg's superpac, but the
. >> andy, nra ceo wayne lapierre spoke last night and his organization released a new ad. >> they don't make us free. we're free already. and as long as we have the second amendment, we always will be. we are america, and our politicians are only as powerful as we, the people, allow them to be. >> the message from the nra just doesn't change. how much influence does it still have? >> it doesn't have influence with television ads like that. i mean, that's an ad that they...